
It seems eminent that the trial of the 9/11 Guantanamo Bay detainees will not be held in New York City, NY, USA after all.
So where should it be other than at Gitmo, where it should have been held in the first place? 44% of people think the suspected terrorists linked to 9/11 trials should be held at Guantanamo Bay, but 49 % think the trials of suspected terrorists linked to 9/11 be held in the continental United States but not have the same rights as U.S. citizens. http://race42008.com/2010/02/01/poll-watch-rasmussen-survey-on-terror-trials/
The trial of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed won’t be held in lower Manhattan and could take place in a military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay, sources said last night. Administration officials said that no final decision had been made but that officials of the Department of Justice and the White House were working feverishly to find a venue that would be less expensive and less of a security risk than New York City. http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2010/01/30/bay-what-guantanamo-eyed-for-911-trial/
Gee, thanks for trying to save us some money and put an end to the hassle of holding a trial in NYC.
…no mistake about it. A trial of KSM and other designated detainees accused of terrorist acts at the Manhattan federal courthouse will carry with it an enormous price, measured not only in dollars. Lives will be disrupted. Several federal judges, as well as prosecutors who were previously involved in terrorist cases, lived for years under the complete protection of the U.S. Marshals Service. Lawyers and litigants in unrelated cases will face a huge inconvenience upon approaching and entering the courthouse. And it cannot be disputed that the security measures necessary to prosecute KSM will be felt, like shockwaves, through lower Manhattan. So the real question is not whether another federal court or another federal facility would be better suited; the real question is whether civilian authority should have to bear the burden of prosecuting non-citizen terrorists. writes http://blackpoliticalbuzz.blogspot.com/2010/02/obama-admin-dithering-on-terror-trial.html
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Sunday threatened to try to cut off the cash the Obama administration will need to shut down the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and hold terrorism trials in U.S. courts. A day after the White House abruptly changed course and said it was reconsidering its decision to hold a terrorism trial in downtown New York, the Kentucky Republican mocked the Obama administration for citing former President George W. Bush as a precedent for holding such trials on U.S. soil. via http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2010/02/gop-idea-slash-cash-for-gitmo-shutdown/
So, where? What to do with Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Khalid Sheik Mohammed, barring setting them free on the streets of ground zero?
Forbes offers a look at America’s most miserable cities. http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/29/detroit-stockton-flint-biz-cz_kb_0130miserable.html with Detroit coming in at number one.
Baltimore and St. Louis still have among the worst crime rates when 2008 crime statistics are adjusted for socioeconomic factors, says the Baltimore Sun. http://thecrimereport.org/2010/01/29/baltimore-st-louis-crime-rates-among-highest-in-adjusted-rankings/
On Friday, Ohio Job and Family Services reported that the statewide unemployment rate for December was 10.9 percent, up from 10.6 percent in November. Among Ohio’s largest cities, Youngstown had last month’s highest jobless rate.http://www.marionstar.com/article/20100127/NEWS01/1270306/-1/newsfront2/December-unemployment-rate-jump-causes-concern. Youngstown half way between Pittsburgh, PA and Cleveland, OH could use a boost in the economy and there is a federal courthouse.
Las Vegas homeowners had the highest U.S. foreclosure rate last year, and California and Florida cities accounted for 17 of the nation’s 20 worst markets as unemployment extended the housing recession. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-01-28/las-vegas-california-cities-top-foreclosure-list-in-2009.html Nah, someone just tried to shoot up the federal courthouse there. Pass.
Top 10 Worst Traffic Cities in the United States For 2009:http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/2009/07/08/top-10-worst-traffic-cities-in-the-united-states-for-2009/
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana CA New York-Newark NY-NJ-CT Chicago IL– IN Atlanta GA Miami FL Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington TX Washington DC-VA-MD San Francisco-Oakland CA Houston TX Detroit MI
Its already going to be a fluscter cluck, so rule these cities out on security reasons alone!
How about Nebraska, not much news from there these days? Cold as hell and there’s a lot of open areas. Cheyenne, Wyoming? Maybe a suburb of Iowa- the potatoes are all nestled in their bed for winter.
Maybe the Florida Keys? There is only one bridge to cross, and the government could run it like it does an airport screening facility.
It’s awfully cold in Alaska, perfect for detainees who are used to kneeling toward the sun while it warms their ass.
Of the ten worst named cities in America, http://www.toptenz.net/10-worst-named-cities.php, our personal vote of where the trials should be held is the town of Intercourse, PA.

The taxpayers are getting screwed anyway, so the town of Intercourse seems a logical choice. Since there isn’t a federal courthouse, we can just spend some of the remaining TARP funds to stimulate it’s economy. Perhaps there is a little wiggle room in the $3.8 trillion dollar budget from President Obama to garner whatever would be necessary to hold the trial there. Surely the local Amish population would pitch in, as many of them are known for being master carpenters.
Attorney General Eric Holder might want to consider moving there as well. He can visit the home of North America’s largest African Elephant “Fannie.” on Mondays through Fridays at the Intercourse Zoo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercourse,_Pennsylvania
Whatever city is chosen for the trial, it is going to be a fiasco on American soil- all at the expense of the thousands who died on September 11.
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Obama’s Birth Certificate and Citizenship Goes to Conference at Supreme Court
Posted in Ahrcanum, Secrets, Lies, & Truth, tagged 08A407, 5TH Amendment, Ahrcanum, Al Qaeda, al-Zawahri, Andres Martin Tigona, Andy Martin, Andy Martin Lawsuit, Article 2, Article II Section 1, Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Baraq Mohammad Hussein Dunham Sotero Obama Jr, Berg Supreme Court, Berg v Obama, Berg vs Obama, birth certificate, CAIR, Campaign Finance, Certificate of Live Birth, certified long form birth certificate, Christmas Present, Christmas Surprise, citizen, citizenship, Citizenship Lawsuits, Clarence Thomas, Clinton, COLB, Constititutional Crisis, Constitution, contrarian commentary, David Souter, DNC, Docket 08-570, Donofrio, Donofrio v Wells, Donofrio vs Wells, Electoral College, eligibility, Eric Holder, fake birth certificate, Federal Compaint Berg vs Obama, Federal Election Commission, Fifth Amendment, Fox, Gregory Garre, Hawaii Birth Certificate, Joe Sandler, lack of standing, legal precedence, Leo Donofrio, Main Stream Media, Martin lawsuit, Martin vs Hawaii, natural born citizen, Natural Born Citizen Clause of the U.S. Constitution, New Jersey Lawsuit, Nina Mitchell Wells, Obama Birth Certificate, Obama's Birth Certificate, Obama's citizenship, Obama-gate, Obamagate, Philip Berg, Philip J. Berg, Politics, Presidential Affirmation, Presidential Election Qualification Clause, Presidential Eligibiltiy, SCOTUS, Scotus Docket No. 08-570, Solicitor General's Office, Supreme Court, Take the fifth, vaulted birth certificate, writ of certiorari, writ of mandamus · on November 20, 2008| Leave a Comment »
Justice is alive and well in this country. Leo Donofrio’s case that has been submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court regarding Obama’s citizenship has drawn the attention of Justice Clarence Thomas. The case has been “distributed for conference,” on December 5, 2008.
Donofrio argues that it is Secretary of State Wells of New Jersey job to verify eligibility for elections and uphold constitutional integrity. “She accepted the certifications of nomination from both major parties under the assumption that both candidate parties were eligible, but she did nothing to verify such eligibility.” The entire brief is good reading and dispels conspiracy theory and can be found at http://www.blogtext.org/userFiles/naturalborncitizen/ScotusStayAppBrief.doc
The United States Supreme Court scheduled the case – Leo C. Donofrio v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey – US Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407 – for a conference of the nine Justices. If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College. The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the “national election” pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States. On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008 http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
Republican Candidate John McCain was born in Panama, Roger Calero, Socialist Worker Party was born in Nicaragua, and Barack Obama has not provided proof to a court where he was born.
Phil Berg is a lawyer who has raised issue specifically with Obama’s birth certificate not being authentic and has filed numerous court proceedings in an effort to force Obama to produced it. http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/ Taking his plea to the U.S. Supreme Court, a writ of certiorari was pending with a response due by December 1, 2008. A response to the court was issued by the FEC- Federal Elections Committee http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SSR7kdEbCqI/AAAAAAAABmg/TD8yPv-ltZk/s1600-h/Berg+v+Obama+–+Waiver.bmp where the docket shows that the respondents have waived their right to respond, filed November 18, 2008. Ummm, so where is the response from the DNC and Obama himself who are also named in the suit? Should there even be a separate response? The writ extends to December 1, 2008 for a response and in the Berg case the FEC filed for relief separately and I believe separate responses are warranted in this case as well.
The FEC in Berg v Obama is outline here http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/ specifically, The FEC claims it has no oversight in the Constitution’s Presidential Election Qualifications clause. http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/28/ and the judge agreed dismissing the motion specifically against the FEC and all others.
http://www.americasright.com/2008/11/us-supreme-court-decisions-on-berg.html Outlines a look at possible collusion on the part of the FEC, DNC, and Obama, and notes specifically “FEC’s attorney, Gregory Garre, is with the Solicitor General’s office, and does not represent Obama or the DNC. While attorneys acting on behalf of a group of defendants or respondents is not necessarily rare, the difference here is the involvement of the Solicitor General’s office, a federal office.” How the Court and Berg interpret this, will more than likely impact the outcome of the case. I think it quite comical that the FEC distances itself from candidates at every turn unless there are Republican dollars at stake in choosing only to review McCain’s campaign finances, and not Obama’s .
Obama hired the Washington Law Firm Sandler, Reiff & Young to represent him against Berg. One of the lawyers filing the motion to dismiss was Joe Sandler who is also a legal representative for CAIR- Council for American Islamic Relations with reported terrorist ties. CAIR is suspect at best, for being funded by terrorists of Hamas thru the Holy Land Foundation. https://ahrcanum.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/sandler-vs-berg-for-obama-citizenship/ Obama in the long run may have rely on his newly appointed Attorney General, Eric Holder who is familiar with controversy from serving in the Clinton Administration. http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/obama.eric.holder.2.867982.html
Where is the MSM, Main Stream Media in all of this? ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, and CNN, are all ignoring the Supreme Court cases that challenge Obama’s eligibility and instead are focusing on his future cabinet picks assuming he is meets the qualifications, and focusing on Internet messages from Al Qaeda’s number-two commander, Ayman al–Zawahri that call Obama and Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, “house negroes.” Venomous words to be sure, but it what would be equally venomous is to have a President in office that is not qualified based on his citizenship.
Obama can not continue to hide behind a COLB, Certification of Live Birth that remains unverifiable. http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate or can he, if he pleads the fifth? https://ahrcanum.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/obama-could-plead-the-5th-amendment-on-citizenship/
God Bless America.
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