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It seems it would be easier to find a needle in a hay stack than for Obama himself, to produce an authentic copy of his birth certificate.

Main Stream Media has all but dismissed coverage of any lingering questions regarding is eligibility to hold office under The U.S. Constitution-  Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and Article VI, Clause 2. of which should need no explanation.  Instead, suddenly Google has 729 news articles in it’s query and most dismiss the entire topic as being implausible. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/09/birth_certificate/  has a review of all the “half baked legal theories,” and points to some on the fringe while ignoring the underlying facts that President Elect Obama has still refused to authenticate himself.

David Horowitz at Town Hall wrote, “It is not conservatism; it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation.”  http://townhall.com/Columnists/DavidHorowitz/2008/12/08/obama_derangement_syndrome_conservatives_need_to_shut_up_about_the_birth_certificate

I fail to define seeking the truth for the highest office in the land, radical.  How is it radical to want to see our laws upheld?   Like most folks I live within the law.  Except for my last speeding ticket some ten years ago, I have a clean record.  I vote, work, pay taxes, have a family, and have a mundane life.  I attend church regularly where my clergy does not claim to “God Damn America.”  I am not a radical.  

When it comes to my individual right to have standing  in the court of law, I fail to see how the media does not strongly object.  Specifically Justice Surrick in Berg v Obama, et al said that Berg has no standing to challenge Obama’s citizenship- again we must ask, if he has no standing then who does?  Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D. writes…  “And, particularly in this situation, judges will desperately desire to escape having to take upon themselves the responsibility for the political consequences—let alone the odium whipped up by Obama’s touts in the big media—that will flow from the courts’ declaring Obama ineligible for the Office of President. Which responsibility and vilification wily judges can craftily evade by denying that voters, electors, candidates, and various other would-be litigants have “standing” to challenge his eligibility. For then the judges can claim both that, on the one hand, they have no authority to declare Obama ineligible because no litigant has “standing” to demand such relief, and that, on the other hand, by dismissing the cases solely on “standing” grounds they have not declared him eligible, either http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin186.htm

In the National Press Room after some long winded comments which can be reviewed with a degree of fairness at http://www.americasright.com/2008/12/challenging-obamas-eligibility-just.html Berg said,  “My case in district court was dismissed for one reason – standing,” Berg said. “According to the court, I don’t have standing, Bob doesn’t have standing, no one in this room has standing. We’re asking for one qualification out of three. We know he’s at least 35 years old. We’ll give him the 14 years in the country. We just want to know that he is natural born. It’s not that difficult.”  Apparently it is.

Horowitz’ article,  Obama Derangement Syndrome: Conservatives Need to Shut Up About the Birth Certificate asks “what difference does it make if Obama was born on U.S. Soil and that advocates will argue “Constitutional Principle”.  He is correct, I and others will argue rationally for my country and my Constitution every day, with every last breath, and not shut up.  There is no civil unrest, no riots, no nothing but freedom of speech.

Donofrio, Berg, Cort, and even Andy Martin have done much to uphold the laws of this land as the original signers of the Constitution intended.    It is not about disenfranchising or challenging the 65 million votes Obama garnered in the election that are being challenged, it’s the fact that Obama should provide proof that he was legally eligible in the first place.  We respect the outcome of elections as proof in Bush v Gore and even in those ballots still being counted for of all people, Al Franken.  From The NY Times “The missing votes favored Mr. Franken, who would fall 46 more votes behind Mr. Coleman if the recount numbers are used.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/us/politics/09minnesota.html?_r=1&ref=politics   I fail to see how more votes would not assist Mr. Franken and that goes to show the quality of MSM election reporting.

The bailout has gone from billions to trillions in just days.  Were Obama’s eligibility falter, the outcome would be tragic.  It would be a bigger tragedy to have allowed a subversion of  America’s core document, The Constitution.

The first Chief Justice of the United States, John Jay, to George Washington in 1787 in a letter wrote:

Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen.

Perhaps the Supremes have read, ““Let it be remembered that civil liberty consists, not in a right to every man to do just what he pleases, but it consists in an equal right to all citizens to have, enjoy, and do, in peace, security and without molestation, whatever the equal and constitutional laws of the country admit to be consistent with the public good.”

 Time will tell if denial and disenfranchisement of Obama’s citizenship is consistent with the public good.

God Bless America

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After waiting the weekend, Donofrio v Wells application to The Supreme Court has been denied.  The Court did not give a reason. 

Was the dismissal procedural or contextual?  The Supremes had more than two weeks to review and read the issues that Donofrio brought to the Court regarding  NJ Secretary of State certification of candidates as being eligible under law. 

Donofrio urges us that, “All eyes should now be closely watching US Supreme Court Docket No. 08A469, Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz,”  regarding similar issues on eligibility.  The docket is at http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm  and scheduled for conference on December 12, 2008.  The case also seems to argue that Obama is not a natural born citizen since he was a British citizen at birth via his father.

“Just like James Bond, Donofrio is not one to never say never again even if tomorrow never comes.  There are two other cases at the Supreme Court.  No word on when the other cases might get attention.  But so far, so good for Barack Obama.  Although some conspiracists may find it interesting that Joe Biden hasn’t resigned from his Senate seat yet…” http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/12/08/whew-obama-can-still-be-president-supreme-court-declines-case/

Today’s orders from The Supreme Court can be found here at http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf

Donofrio offers a gentlemanly description of his journey to The Court and assistance to the Cort case here  http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/ and here http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/

Today Philip Berg also filed an injunction seeking to stop the Electoral College until Obama’s eligibility is proved.  http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/072_ObamaPressRelease12082008.pdf his site is at http://www.obamacrimes.com/ but neither lists a document number to follow yet. 

The whole chain of events outlined is being outlined by a man name Joe Thunder who was there [sic-at the Supreme Ct] in flesh and blood.  He is going to be on Overnight AM Radio  at 10:20p.m. tonight and promises a video on the site tomorrow.  http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/

Overnight AM Radio also has a video of  Texas state representative, Suzanna Gratia-Hupp, whose parents were killed by an insane gunman while her gun was out in the car, gives very moving and bold testimony about the REAL reason that the second amendment was designed to protect our God-given right to keep and bear arms.  Link direct at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675

Funny how the MSM didn’t care much to write about or feature Obama’s pending litigation at SCOTUS, until the Donofrio case was denied.  Fair and balanced my a $ $. 

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President-elect Barack Obama, returning to his home state of Hawaii for the holidays, plans a beach side vacation at one of Oahu’s most exclusive properties, according to an islander involved in the planning. …The property is located across the island from metropolitan Honolulu.” http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081205/D94SQ3MG0.html

In late October, less than two weeks before the election, Obama spent about 22 hours in Honolulu visiting his dying grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20081206_Christmastime_in_Kailua_is_on_Obamas_agenda.html

Obama raised more than $745 million during his campaign and has a $30 million surplus that other democrats in campaign debt would love to get there hands on.  ” Legally, Obama can donate the extra money to charity, transfer it to another political campaign, or dole it out in  $2,000 increments to local candidates,”  Gross said.  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081206/ap_on_el_pr/obama_democrats

Our economy is in the tank, job losses are the highest since the 70’s, home foreclosures are increasing and That One is taking his family on an incredible beach vacation with a few other families.  Who is footing this bill?  The secret service will be thrilled to get out of DC and Chicago for warmer breezes. 

While the Obama’s dream of glistening sand much of America will have glistening snow. 

Under the duress of an Alberta Clipper, sometime this week the Supremes should post notice if they are going to hear Donofrio v Wells. The Supreme Court met in a full conference on, Judge Thomas Clarence’s recommendation,  December 5, 2008  Docket http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm.   The case challenges Obama’s eligibility under the natural born clause of the U.S. Constitution. 

This case does not center on Obama’s birth certificate rather, it cites the fact that even on Obama’s own web where he claims to have been born in Hawaii, his father was a Kenyan and he had dual citizenship.  The problem is that our Constitution does not allow for dual citizenship in the office of President.  ooops.

The other hanging chad at SCOTUS is Berg v Obama.  A easy to follow listing of court action is here can be found here- http://www.sectalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=62655&referrerid=1579.  Berg’s case centers around his birth certificate and believes that the COLB posted for us to see is fraudulent.

Obama has never produced an original birth certificate, ever.  Placing a document on the Internet doesn’t make if factual. Neither the DNC, RNC, FEC, any SOS have authenticated Obama’s eligibility. 

No Court to date has requested anything either.  Maybe today.

 “The 10th Amendment to the Constitution states that the powers not delegated to the federal government, nor prohibited to the states, remain with the states or the people.  Therefore it seems that any state or any person has standing to sue to enforce not just the Natural Born Citizen Clause, but other constitutional requirements and rights, absent some expressly written bar within the Constitution itself.” http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_enforces_the_constitutions.html

Barack Obama’s vaulted birth certificate is under lock and key in Hawaii and maybe while he is in Hawaii he might pick up it up and put this matter to rest with or without the Court’s mandate.

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“Source AOL NEWS

By Michael Kraskin

Today is the day that all the Barack Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorists–or “birthers,” as they’re known in some circles*–have been waiting for. Yes, at long last, it’s Birth Certificate Day at the Supreme Court! Time for the highest court in the land to settle this dispute once and all.

Or so the “birthers” would like to believe.

They’re a tad mistaken, though. That’s because the authenticity question over of Obama’s birthplace document has all ready been put to rest innumerable times.

No, the question before the court today is not whether Obama was born in the U.S., it’s whether that birth makes him a natural born citizen. The argument brought by Leo Donofrio goes like this:

“Don’t be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues. They are irrelevant to Senator Obama’s ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama’s father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama’s birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen ‘at birth’, just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn’t be eligible to be President.

The Framers of the Constitution, at the time of their birth, were also British Citizens and that’s why the Framers declared that, while they were Citizens of the United States, they themselves were not “natural born Citizens”.

Got it? The argument is that even if he was born in the U.S., his daddy was an immigrant, so he can’t be president. Donofrio in fact “concedes Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.”

Also, the Supreme Court isn’t hearing the case, they are deciding whether to hear the case.”

Reposted from http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=445#comment-2058

Since when does the AOLNEWS, or any of the news services interject BLATANTLY an opinion into a news article?  At least MSM is coy.  Shame, shame, as millions rely on AOL to speak the gospel in reporting the news and the facts.  This was not a blog or even an editorial piece, this was presented as fact that the tin foil hat, birthers are mired in conspiracy and not fact. 

The Supremes should have something to say next week.  Whatever AOLNEWS chooses to write about, let us be reminded of its obvious slant toward defying the Constitution if Obama proves to not be eligible. 

At least  they reported ” the Supreme Court isn’t hearing the case, they are deciding whether to hear the case.”  Golly gee, thanks for the news scoop. 

  Be afraid, very afraid.

For a little more factual information on the Donofrio case http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/.

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Obama’s Citizenship and Pedigree in Conference at Supreme Court

“If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog,” said, President Harry Truman.  The Bush’s are moving out to fancy dancy Preston Hallow, TX with their dogs while the Obama family will be getting a new puppy when they move into the White House.

“The breeds we’ve chosen for the Obama family represent a variety of sizes, energy levels and temperaments, yet all are well-established in their coat type, to ensure that they are a good match for any allergy sufferer,” says AKC spokesperson Lisa Peterson. “Dogs that are AKC registered have pedigrees reaching back often hundreds of years, and so the characteristics that make them better companions for allergy suffers are fixed through decades of breeding for consistent breed type and predictability.” http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/vetting-obamas.html

Obama, it seems has been bred with the same predictability as a lot of other political dogs.  His characteristics of  avoiding full disclosure remind me of a dog  you want to like and aren’t allergic to, but it just keeps lifting it’s leg to pee on the carpet while it’s looking at you- right in the eye.  Obama’s own lineage and pedigree have yielded him to offhandedly, call himself a mutt.  Language and politically correct driven terminology aside, some are saying that they were offended by his self-deprecating description of himself as a “mutt.”  Obama’s biracial heritage while it has not been verified by his birth certificate, seems to be the son of a white mother from Kansas and an African father from Kenya.  It is that lineage, and the laws of the land that might keep a him from taking office. 

It is a remarkable achievement to have a bi-racial, black in appearance, man as President Elect.  Putting the applause for America aside, it seems we know more about vetting his dog than him.  His associations with Ayers, Retzko, ACORN, etc.,  have been circumspect  and any improprieties, cast aside by his supporters.  Days before the Electoral College meets, still we have questions about his pedigree and breeding that could prohibit Obama and 12 million other immigrants from holding the highest office is the land, President- and a whole host of lawsuits are looking for answers.  Some of those cases are reviewed here in relative Main Stream Media- The Chicago Tribune Chronicle.  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html.

The Supreme Court is going to be meeting in a full conference today, December 5, 2008 regarding Donofrio v Wells. Docket http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm.   The case challenges Obama’s eligibility under the natural born clause of the U.S. Constitution.  The case was re-submitted to Justice Thomas of whom Obama said, “I don’t think that he [Thomas] was a strong enough jurist or legal thinker at the time, for that elevation, setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretations of a lot of the constitution.”  Thomas is at the opposite end of Obama’s political spectrum including anti-affirmative action, anti-abortion, and anti-prisoner rights views.  Could Thomas be just getting even in referring this to a full conference?

Justice Souter had rejected the petition, known as an application for a stay of writ of certiorari that asked the court to prevent the meeting of the Electoral College on Dec. 15, which will certify Obama as the 44th president of the United States and its first African-American president.

Some have argued that the eligibility issue should be amended to render naturalized citizens and immigrants the right to serve as President.  As it stands now Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 provides:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fices who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
A New York Times article, A Constitutional Anachronism, writes, “The provision has long since outlived its usefulness, if it had any in the first place. ” http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D07EEDB1F38F935A3575AC0A9659C8B63 
Orrin Hatch, a Senate Republican, and Vic Snyder, a House Democrat, pushed for amendments to rid the Constitution of that requirement but the law stands unchanged and it is the obligation of someone, in some court to uphold that law.
Attorney Sarah Herlihy wrote on the citizenship issue: “…globalization is the thing that makes the need to abolish the requirement more and more persuasive, Americans’ subsequent perceptions about globalization are the very things that will prevent Americans from embracing the idea of eliminating the natural born requirement,” http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf   More insulting she says, “Whether it is because of fear, racism, religious intolerance, or blind faith in the decisions of the Founding Fathers, Americans want to find a way to avoid changing the natural born citizen provision to allow natural-ized citizens to be eligible for the presidency.”
The amazing twist is that the author is attorney Sarah Herlihy who works for the the law firm of Kirkland & Ellis LLP, in Chicago.  One of the partners, Bruce I. Ettelson,  http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm?contentID=220&itemID=7845  happens to be a member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.  http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm?contentID=220&itemID=8909  It is always so convenient for President Elect Obama to have made so many friends in his short stint as Senator.
I do not believe that our Supreme Court has fear, racism, religious intolerance or blind faith in interpreting the written laws of the land.  SCOTUS today will review Donofrio’s case regarding the law and will announce most likely Monday; if this case will be heard, referred back to the lower court or dismissed. 
I accept a foreigners loyalty to America upon becoming a citizen but have misgivings that there would not continue to be a strong attachment to a persons country of origin.  Look at the Cuban sector of Miami and tell me that ties have been severed.  No matter that you maybe born in America, traditions of Chinese, Italians, Irish, Mexican, etc., are held near and dear to many  and that is what makes America great.  The ancestral connection though, could run deeper to those not born here and those loyalties could impair his abilities as chief executive and commander-in-chief and, without intention act detrimentally upon United States.
Each member of the Supreme Court has been fully vetted while Justice Surrick the Berg v Obama case also hanging at SCOTUS, claims that Obama’s vetting came from the long campaign.  To claim that a political race is an investigation is ludicrous and  not good enough for me but to my dismay it has been proven true unless this case or another one like it hears testimony from Obama himself and is witness to his full pedigree proving that he is eligible and does not have dual citizenship and meets all the qualification of the law. 
I do not want to see our Constitution in the doghouse. 
For a bit more on this topic check out http://guntotingliberal.com/ who has a recent image of Obama’s driver’s license that gives clue to deception and an image that could be his photo at birth at http://thebruceblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/breaking-new-proof-its-true-obama-was-not-born-in-the-us-what-now/

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Andy Martin isn’t done with Obama just yet.  He has filed another motion to the courts in Hawaii seeking Obama’s birth certificate.

MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF COURT’S

ORDER OF NOVEMBER 19, 2008

 

Preliminary Statement

The Court managed to take what is at its core a simple and straightforward case seeking review of denial of access to a Hawai’i record, and to add layers of confusion and complexity that were totally unwarranted by the record made in open court on November 18th. For the reasons that follow, Plaintiff moves the Court to reconsider, vacate and rehear the matters decided on November 19th using the correct procedures and standards of law.

Plaintiff initially thought that he would appeal the order to the Intermediate Court of Appeals, but it would be a disservice to that Court to appeal such a mangled and needlessly confused record from the trial forum. Thus, the Rule 59 motion (see below) stays any appeal until a decision on this motion.

 

Plaintiff is not aware if a judgment has been entered since he has not been served with any such document. Prior to entry of a judgment a Court has plenary power to review and reconsider an order.  http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/320/Default.aspx

 

Martin claims he did not get a judgment from the court? What? Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe has dismissed Internet author Andy Martin’s lawsuit seeking to obtain a copy of President-elect Barack Obama’s Hawaii’i birth certificate.  The judge upheld arguments from Gov. Linda Lingle’s administration that Martin — a political opponent of Obama — had no standing under state law to obtain a copy of the document.  reported in http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront and previously written about here https://ahrcanum.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/obamas-birth-certificate-denied-to-andy-martin-again/

Whatever opinion you have about Andy Martin, one must admire his tenaciousness in seeking out the truth about Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship eligibility for the office of President. 

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Obama’s Birth Certificate Conspiracy SR 511 and Faithless Electors

Of all the low down dirty deeds regarding Obama’s citizenship, I had forgotten all about Senate Resolution 511.  Before Obama’s www.fightthesmears.com even began to address lurking questions on Obama’s illicit associations with Ayers, Retzko, Wright and the citizenship issue with Berg v Obama at the Supreme Court or Donofrio v Wells scheduled for a SCOTUS conference on December 5, 2008, was SR 511. 

What started out as an effort to put to rest any objection to Senator John McCain’s eligibility to become our nation’s President because he was born outside of the U.S. in Panama, was in fact a preemptive strike to eliminate any claim that Obama might not be a natural born citizen either . A February NY Times article raised the question as to whether McCain, who was born in 1936 on a U.S. military installation in the Panama Canal Zone, satisfied the constitutional prerequisites to become president. Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution requires a president to be a natural born citizen.

“There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent,” Sarah H. Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively, told the NYT. “It is not a slam-dunk situation.”  http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/04/11/clinton-obama-agree-mccains-a-natural-born-citizen/.

SR 511 is Constitutional Resolution that got slam dunked when it passed in April of this year (08). Obama’s congressional supporters – including Gov. Claire McCaskill (D-MOi), Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and Sen. James Webb (D-VA) –proposed and passed a Resolution (S.Res.511) entitled: Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.  http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text.

S. Res.511 clearly states that “…Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States…”

Whereas, a natural born Citizen is not defined?  Hold your horses there and re-read.  Natural born citizen is not defined.  Hmmmmmmm? The bill states, ” Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President…”  This piece of legislation was introduced, written and passed clearly with intent to extend the meaning of the Constitution, and prior to SR 511 there was no presidency in Congress.  

Mrs. Clinton’s support and co-authorship of this bill, even though they were battling in the primary election for the presidency, was so incredibly strategic and manipulative on Obama’s part that it borders on absolute fraud.  The bill completely attempts to redefine his citizenship and will try to keep him eligible, constitutionally as the 44th President, even after he finally shows his Official Vault Birth Certificate. 

Do you honestly think Obama wants Hillary Clinton to act as his Secretary of State?  Obama owes Hillary big time for sponsoring SR 511, and her nomination as SOS is payback.  He will put up with her, and torture her until he can no longer stand it or she will, herself – resign from the position. 

The Supreme Court may seek to grant Donofrio, Berg, and maybe even Keyes, a day in court and America may finally come to know the truth on Obama’s birth certificate.  It has been alleged his birth is in Kenya, he lost his citizenship in Indonesia, his mother was a minor when she gave birth, his dad was Frank Marshall, he is an illegal alien, blah, blah, blah- according to SR 511- the Democrats would have us believe Constitution was tossed by the wayside and no matter. 

Alas, in truth, “Simple resolutions do not require the approval of the other house nor the signature of the President, and they do not have the force of law.” http://www.senate.gov/legislative/common/briefing/leg_laws_acts.htm#4 

Whether or not we are ever witness to his birth certificate, the facts are fuzzy and circumspect that Obama may not be qualified to hold any office in the United States.  Would any elector who now votes for Obama may be found guilty of treason?  

The Electoral College meets on December 15, 2008 to issue an official election determination. The members of Congress who have sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution and its laws – including the citizenship clause, will vote in January to either confirm or reject the vote of the Electoral College but Electors are not bound to cast their vote for the candidate presented. “Faithless Electors” are members of the Electoral College who, for whatever reason do not vote for their party’s designated candidate. Since the founding of the Electoral College, there have been 156 faithless Electors.  http://www.fairvote.org/e_college/faithless.htm Undoubtedly a faithless elector would run risk of censure and other political retaliation from his party.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector  Can we depend on Joe Lieberman stand up again for what is right?  What one member of Congress has enough balls to stand up to question that the basic constitutional requirements for office have been met?    There is something totally wrong with relying on a Constitutional Crisis to satisfy our laws on eligibility.   http://www.ziitrend.com/predict/on/any_faithless_elector_s_in_2008_2008-11-04 is where you can vote or following the voting on whether or not there will be a Constitutional Crisis at all.  With 63% accuracy in the past, the current prediction is 70% favorable for a crisis.

Three is little doubt intelligence has been keeping a watchful eye court proceedings.  Would there be peaceful noncompliance, civil disobedience, Martial Law? 

This is not the change anyone had hoped for from Obama.

God Bless America.

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