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“THE PATRIOT MICRO CHIP” is intended to be implanted in Terrorists. The implant is specifically designed to be installed in the forehead. When properly installed, it will allow the implantee to speak to God.
It comes in various sizes.
The exact size of the implant will be selected by a well-trained and highly-skilled technician.  The implant may or may not be painless.  Side effects, like headaches and nausea, are temporary.  Some bleeding or swelling may occur at the injection site.  Please enjoy the security we provide for you.
The US MARINES!
This came from a reader at Glen Beck’s fan club on facebook http://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck?ref=nf which is full of political visions.
Nine years later no decision has yet been made on where, nor what kind of trial should be held for the 9-11 terrorists by The White House.  
Attorney General Eric Holder is leaving open the possibility of trying professed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed before a military commission instead of the civilian trial originally planned for New York City.http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123641904
The decision of the trials ultimately falls to the President of the United States.  Bush couldn’t get it done under his term and we are coming to wonder if these trials will occur during the Obama Presidency or the next administration. 
It’s a good thing we didn’t close Gitmo after all.  
Twelve images newly released by the government of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorists’ attacks on the World Trade Center provide a fresh look at the tragedy and its impact on New York City via http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/newly-released-sept-11-photos-world-trade-center/story?id=9798856.
ABC calls it a fresh look at the tragedy!  These horrific images should be displayed everyday as a reminder of what Mohammed and his co-defendants, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi and Walid bin Attash are accused of.
The charges:  committing terrorism and conspiring with al-Qaida to murder civilians on September 11, 2001   They also face 2,973 counts of murder, one for each person killed in 2001 when hijacked passenger planes crashed into the World Trade Centre, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/alqaida.guantanamo

Click on the candle for a list of names of people who died in September 11 Memorial

On June 5, 2008 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four alleged al-Qaida co-conspirator faced a US military judge for the first time.  What kind of presidence is it to show the world it takes seven years for your first court appearance?  American justice is not putting it’s best foot forward.  Now almost another two years later even Obama, a supposed Harvard educated lawyer is dragging his feet to put the trial behind us.
The alleged mastermind of the September 11 terrorist attacks has disposed of the US military lawyer allocated to defend him and told a Guantánamo tribunal that he would welcome being put to death, reported The Guardian.
We be willing to bet that the 2,973 families who lost loved ones would welcome his death as well.   The Marines Patriot Microchip seems like a good solution.

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It seems eminent that the trial of the 9/11 Guantanamo Bay detainees will not be held in New York City, NY, USA after all.

So where should it be other than at Gitmo, where it should have been held in the first place?  44% of people think the suspected terrorists linked to 9/11 trials should be held at Guantanamo Bay, but 49 % think the trials of suspected terrorists linked to 9/11 be held in the continental United States but not have the same rights as U.S. citizens.  http://race42008.com/2010/02/01/poll-watch-rasmussen-survey-on-terror-trials/

The trial of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed won’t be held in lower Manhattan and could take place in a military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay, sources said last night.  Administration officials said that no final decision had been made but that officials of the Department of Justice and the White House were working feverishly to find a venue that would be less expensive and less of a security risk than New York City.  http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2010/01/30/bay-what-guantanamo-eyed-for-911-trial/ 

Gee, thanks for trying to save us some money and put an end to the hassle of holding a trial in NYC.   

…no mistake about it. A trial of KSM and other designated detainees accused of terrorist acts at the Manhattan federal courthouse will carry with it an enormous price, measured not only in dollars. Lives will be disrupted. Several federal judges, as well as prosecutors who were previously involved in terrorist cases, lived for years under the complete protection of the U.S. Marshals Service. Lawyers and litigants in unrelated cases will face a huge inconvenience upon approaching and entering the courthouse. And it cannot be disputed that the security measures necessary to prosecute KSM will be felt, like shockwaves, through lower Manhattan. So the real question is not whether another federal court or another federal facility would be better suited; the real question is whether civilian authority should have to bear the burden of prosecuting non-citizen terrorists. writes http://blackpoliticalbuzz.blogspot.com/2010/02/obama-admin-dithering-on-terror-trial.html

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Sunday threatened to try to cut off the cash the Obama administration will need to shut down the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and hold terrorism trials in U.S. courts. A day after the White House abruptly changed course and said it was reconsidering its decision to hold a terrorism trial in downtown New York, the Kentucky Republican mocked the Obama administration for citing former President George W. Bush as a precedent for holding such trials on U.S. soil. via http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2010/02/gop-idea-slash-cash-for-gitmo-shutdown/

So, where?  What to do with Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Khalid Sheik Mohammed, barring setting them free on the streets of ground zero?

Forbes offers a look at America’s most miserable cities. http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/29/detroit-stockton-flint-biz-cz_kb_0130miserable.html with Detroit coming in at number one. 

Baltimore and St. Louis still have among the worst crime rates when 2008 crime statistics are adjusted for socioeconomic factors, says the Baltimore Sun. http://thecrimereport.org/2010/01/29/baltimore-st-louis-crime-rates-among-highest-in-adjusted-rankings/

On Friday, Ohio Job and Family Services reported that the statewide unemployment rate for December was 10.9 percent, up from 10.6 percent in November.  Among Ohio’s largest cities, Youngstown had last month’s highest jobless rate.http://www.marionstar.com/article/20100127/NEWS01/1270306/-1/newsfront2/December-unemployment-rate-jump-causes-concern.  Youngstown half way between Pittsburgh, PA and Cleveland, OH could use a boost in the economy and there is a federal courthouse.

Las Vegas homeowners had the highest U.S. foreclosure rate last year, and California and Florida cities accounted for 17 of the nation’s 20 worst markets as unemployment extended the housing recession.  http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-01-28/las-vegas-california-cities-top-foreclosure-list-in-2009.html  Nah, someone just tried to shoot up the federal courthouse there. Pass.

Top 10 Worst Traffic Cities in the United States For 2009:http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/2009/07/08/top-10-worst-traffic-cities-in-the-united-states-for-2009/

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana CA  New York-Newark NY-NJ-CT  Chicago IL– IN  Atlanta GA  Miami FL   Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington TX Washington DC-VA-MD   San Francisco-Oakland CA  Houston TX  Detroit MI

Its already going to be a fluscter cluck, so rule these cities out on security reasons alone!

How about Nebraska, not much news from there these days?  Cold as hell and there’s a lot of open areas.  Cheyenne, Wyoming?  Maybe a suburb of Iowa- the potatoes are all nestled in their bed for winter.

Maybe the Florida Keys?  There is only one bridge to cross, and the government could run it like it does an airport screening facility.

It’s awfully cold in Alaska, perfect for detainees who are used to kneeling toward the sun while it warms their ass.

Of the ten worst named cities in America, http://www.toptenz.net/10-worst-named-cities.php, our personal vote of where the trials should be held is the town of Intercourse, PA. 

The taxpayers are getting screwed anyway, so the town of Intercourse seems a logical choice.  Since there isn’t a federal courthouse, we can just spend some of the remaining TARP funds to stimulate it’s economy.  Perhaps there is a little wiggle room in the $3.8 trillion dollar budget from President Obama to garner whatever would be necessary to hold the trial there. Surely the local Amish population would pitch in, as many of them are known for being master carpenters.  

Attorney General Eric Holder might want to consider moving there as well.  He can visit the home of North America’s largest African Elephant “Fannie.” on Mondays through Fridays at the Intercourse Zoo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercourse,_Pennsylvania

Whatever city is chosen for the trial, it is going to be a fiasco on American soil- all at the expense of the thousands who died on September 11.

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It would not be appropriate to be a writer and not have something to say on the 8th anniversary of the tragic events of September 11th.  What words are there to convey the immense destruction brought upon U.S. soil? 

Pissed off is my choice in words. 

Pissed that idiots could not put the pieces together ahead of time to prevent the attacks in the first place.  The Phoenix Memo clearly outlined unheeded warnings about Islamic terrorists training at US flight schools. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/phoenix-memo/

Pissed that the US Justice Department’s Air Force Manual 10-100: Airman’s Manual, Aug 1999 version, and the manual “Managing Weapons of Mass Destruction Incidents: An Executive Level Program for Sheriffs” which taught local law enforcement how to deal with terrorist attacks were a failure.  In practicing for an event like 911; the simplest statement to issue- “run” would have saved thousands.  Instead, they told people to stay in the buildings. 

Twice as pissed that The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission) failed miserably to do its job.  http://www.9-11commission.gov/

“I don’t believe any longer that it’s a matter of connecting the dots. I think they had a veritable blueprint, and we want to know why they didn’t act on it.”— Senator Arlen Specter, a Republican member of the joint intelligence committee that investigated 9/11.

“Had one human being or a common group of human beings sat down with all that information, we could have gotten to the hijackers before they flew those four airplanes either into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or the ground of Pennsylvania.”— Senator Bob Graham, then Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; Democratic co-chairman of the joint intelligence panel that investigated 9/11

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I am pissed that school’s do not teach what happened on 911 other than if you are lucky, on the day of September 11, 2001.  The twin towers poster should be hanging right next to the flag of The United States of America that the children face as they say The Pledge of Allegiance.  Look at it everyday and see the sacrifice. 

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I am pissed that there was no order to fly flags at half mast today in honor and respect of the day.  President Obama ordered that “US flags fly at half-staff at the White House, all public buildings, all military posts, all naval vessels, and diplomatic outposts around the globe until sunset on Sunday to honor Senator Edward M. Kennedy.  http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/08/obama_orders_fl.html  He’s buried now, flags are back up. So is  my dander.

I am pissed that the media rarely shows the twin towers or any images from September 11.  Too gruesome?  Tuff shit. Play the 911 emergency phone calls, show the planes, play the image of the men and women jumping to their death.  Too inconvenient?  “Never forget – as long as it’s not too bothersome.” said,  Nick Monteleone in the New York Daily News.   

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I am pissed that ground zero is still a concrete hole in the ground.  While lease holders argue about the name of the building, eight years later, not much has been done.  The NY Port Authority should have made it a park. Period.

I am pissed that no one has convinced me either way that there was, or wasn’t a conspiracy set up by President Bush, Dick Rumsfeld or someone else.  Charlie Sheen has gotten on the band wagon claiming, ” I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative.” Focusing on the events of 9/11 and the subsequent investigation—http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/

I am pissed that there is enough evidence that our tax dollars were spent on the C.I.A training Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban.  I am pissed at the war with Iraq and now Afghanistan.  Thousands of dead soldiers and civilians.  I know, it’s better to fight there than here- but get in, do your job, get out.  Don’t linger like a fly pestering a camel’s ass. 

I am pissed that our President saw fit to bow to a Saudi King.

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I am pissed that while there can never be complete safety, that America’s borders remain wide open to illegal immigrants, drug dealers and terrorists alike.  

“A 2,000 mile state-of-the-art border fence has been estimated to cost between four and eight billion dollars. Costs for a wall that would run the entire length of the border might be as low as $851 million for a standard 10-foot prison chain link fence topped by razor wire. For another $362 million, the fence could be electrified. A larger 12-foot tall, two-foot-thick concrete wall painted on both sides would run about $2 billion. Initially it was estimated that the San Diego fence would cost $14 million — about $1 million a mile. The first 11 miles of the fence eventually cost $42 million — $3.8 million per mile, and the last 3.5 miles may cost even more since they cover more difficult terrain. An additional $35 million to complete the final 3.5 miles was approved in 2005 by the Department of Homeland Security — $10 million per mile.http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/mexico-wall.htm 

It’s would be laughable if it weren’t true.  Sub the job out to a private contractor, create some fukcing jobs and keep our borders safe.

Top it all off, from National Geographic, “Many species, including the mountain lion, find prey and mates via migration corridors that cut through public lands along the 1,950-mile (3,138-kilometer) border. the International League of Conservation Photographers sent a team of world-renowned photographers, writers, and filmmakers to the borderlands as part of a Rapid Assessment Visual Expedition (RAVE), which took place between January 25 and February 17, 2009. They returned with thousands of images—some of them presented here http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/04/photogalleries/us-mexico-border-fence-wildlife/

Now I am really pissed.  Boo hoo for the poor cat that can’t come over the border.  Humpty Dumpty sat on a fence.  The photographers should be sentenced to sit there for the same amount of time documenting the human trafficking, drug trafficking, gun trafficking, and illegal entry of who knows potentially carrying either Swine Flu or some weapon of mass destruction.

Last thing, the thing that pissed me off the most.  I am pissed this day to be recognized as a National Day of Service and Remembrance .  How much of our money is going to be spent on taxpayer-funded grants for projects? 

You ought to be pissed off too. 

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In practicing for terror exercises over Chicago, is Falcon Virgo 09-Windy City-One, a red flag warning that there could be an immanent attack?  Could Sears Tower, now called Willis Tower as of last week, be the next catastrophic terrorist attack on U.S. Soil?  Willis Group Holdings, a London-based insurance broker is the new owner http://www.willistower.com/– will they be the  next 9/11 or the 9/11-2b?   The zip code of the Sears- er, Willis Tower is 60606- 666!  I still hear Joe Biden’s warning that in the next 6 months America and President Obama will be tested. 

 
“TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. – The North American Aerospace Defense Command and its geographical component, the Continental United States NORAD Region (CONR), will conduct a one-day exercise, Falcon Virgo 09-Windy City-One, July 21 in Chicago. “The exercise comprises a series of training flights held in coordination with the Federal Aviation Administration, Chicago Air Route Traffic Control Center, Chicago Terminal Radar Approach Control, the Continental U.S. NORAD Region, Customs and Border Protection and CORN’s Eastern Air Defense.” Sector” http://www.norad.mil/News/2009/072009.html
 
Since Sept. 11, 2001, NORAD fighters have responded to more than 2,100 possible air threats in the United States and have flown more than 51,000 sorties.  51,000 sorties  in 8 years?   Ummm that works out …….8 years times 52 weeks in a year equals a total of 416 weeks-  times 7 days in a week, equals 2,912 days.  Take those 51,000 sorties divided by the 2912 days and you get an average of 17.5 sorties flown every single day since 9-11.  Holy shit, batman.  Yet, we need more practice?
 
Tuning in my antennae, military exercises were operational leading up to the events of September 11, 2001.  One 9/11 Report, NORAD Exercises Hijack Summary http://www.scribd.com/doc/16411947/NORAD-Exercises-Hijack-Summary  simulated aircraft hijackings by terrorists over NYC.  HistoryCommons.org also hosts Timelines of entities and events, based on mainstream sources- the National Archives’ 9/11 Commission records are uploaded here for the Complete 9/11 Timeline http://www.scribd.com/HistoryCommons
 
The military unit most involved in the exercises leading to 9/11, Vigilant Guardian was NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS).  The imaginary scenario and exercises played out in reality days later. Labeling it a failed emergency response on the day of the attacks, is to put it mildly. 
 
“For the NEADS crew, 9/11 was not a story of four hijacked airplanes, but one of a heated chase after more than a dozen potential hijackings—some real, some phantom—that emerged from the turbulence of misinformation that spiked in the first 100 minutes of the attack and continued well into the afternoon and evening,” wrote Vanity Fair Magazine.  Asking, “How did the U.S. Air Force respond on 9/11? Could it have shot down United 93, as conspiracy theorists claim? Obtaining 30 hours of never-before-released tapes from the control room of NORAD’s Northeast head-quarters, the author reconstructs the chaotic military history of that day—and the Pentagon’s apparent attempt to cover it up.
 
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“The North American Aerospace Defense Command imagined the possible use of aircraft as weapons, too, and developed exercises to counter such a threat—from planes coming to the United States from overseas, perhaps carrying a weapon of mass destruction. None of this speculation was based on actual intelligence of such a threat. One idea, intended to test command and control plans and NORAD’s readiness, postulated a hijacked airliner coming from overseas and crashing into the Pentagon. The idea was put aside in the early planning of the exercise as too much of a distraction from the main focus (war in Korea), and as too unrealistic.As we pointed out in chapter 1, the military planners assumed that since such aircraft would be coming from overseas; they would have time to identify the target and scramble interceptors.”
http://demos.vivisimo.com/search?input-form=simple&v%3Asources=911&v%3Ap…
 
“Northeast Air Defense Sector—DAT Audio Files—11 Sep 2001.”This is not an exercise.”
 
A National Level Exercise, 2009 (NLE ’09) is scheduled July 27-31, 2009. “NLE 09 will allow terrorism prevention efforts to proceed to a logical end (successful or not), with no requirement for response or recovery activities.” http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm No requirement for response ? In the event of a real attack during the NLE, we we again have menial response like on 9/11 or no response at all?  Our U.S. military and federal agencies, in cooperation with foreign troops from Australia, Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom (Yes- foreign troops on U.S. Soil !) will be practicing for more imaginary catastrophic events concentrated around Washington, DC and FEMA Region VI, which includes the states of Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas.
 
Rather ironic FEMA issued this press release regarding  Texas, today July 21, 2009, ” has awarded more than $20 million in hazard mitigation grants to the city of Galveston to acquire 64 homes that suffered extensive damage as a result of Hurricane Ike. One $15.3 million grant was obligated to Galveston for authorities to acquire 46 residential properties located in the 100-year floodplain. Another grant provides $5.4 million to be used for the acquisition of 18 properties in the 100-year floodplain. http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=49128  By math math, that 40 million dollars to acquire 128 houses or property–that an average of $312,000 each. Estimated median house or condo value in 2007: $119,658 http://www.city-data.com/housing/houses-Galveston-Texas.html
 
Terrorist attacks don’t just come from plane, trains, automobiles, bombs or in physicality, as The Corbett Report http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20090717_cyber_911.htm asks, did the real cyber 9/11 attack occur on 9/11?   
 
President Bush signed the plans to invade Afghanistan on Sept. 10th, the day before 9/11 and just yesterday it was announced that another 25,000 soldiers were heading to Afghanistan- pronto.  And as Ron Paul reminded us eight years ago, “We should recognize that American tax dollars helped to create the very Taliban government that now wants to destroy us. In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today’s brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today’s dollars.” 
A unique timeline of more events of 9/11 and the Al Qaeda and the Taliban is here http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/main/AAafghanwar.html 
 
Neil Barofsky, special inspector general for the Treasury’s Troubled Asset Relief Program say the U.S. rescue may reach $23.7 Trillion dollars admitting offered criticism in a separate quarterly report of Treasury’s implementation of TARP, saying the department has “repeatedly failed to adopt recommendations” needed to provide transparency and fulfill the administration’s goal to implement TARP “with the highest degree of accountability.”
As a result, taxpayers don’t know how TARP recipients are using the money or the value of the investments, he said in the report. sourced at http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/07/tarp-special-investigator-says-bailout.html.  The other aberration of America’s economic woes is paying $15 million dollars for toilets on the international space station http://www.hightechscience.org/zero_gravity_toilet.htm   
 
In this era of supposed transparency, is is painfully obvious that  the 9/11 Commission omitted so many things and deceived the public.  Our government will continue to do so in the name of national security.  Printing, spending and loosing trillions and loosing more lives in terrorist attacks here or abroad is beyond absurd.  The Stenster blog claims, “The failure of the FBI to investigate our professional and proven analysis indicates that the pending 9/11-2B attack is an official conspiracy. The propagandizing by CNN and other Jewish-controlled media against U.S. militias like Ghost Troop indicates that they are a part of that conspiracy.” http://stienster.blogspot.com/
 
Pray -practice makes perfect as the NORAD Press Release says – Falcon Virgo Windy City-Two and Windy City -Three are future exercises that have yet to be scheduled. 
  
 
” In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell

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We know that you knew, that they knew, you know? 

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Israeli intelligence Aman, and others warned with credible evidence of a major attack on the United States prior to September 11, 2001. THE WMD Guidebook show here was in use prior to 911.  In Pakistan and other Muslim countries they believe that the attacks were part of an Israeli conspiracy, but there is little doubt that it was Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda network who were responsible for the attacks. 

Diligence or luck has prevented another attack on U.S. Soil even though VP Joe Biden has predicted that within six months of his administration, Obama would be tested just as John F. Kennedy was.  This is day 101.

You “Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy,” Biden said. “And he’s gonna have to make some really tough — I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you, it’s gonna happen.” http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/20/1572652.aspx

The current crisis is Obama having declassified and released memos detailing the programs used to question al Qaeda suspects. Is water boarding torture, did it violate U.S. and international laws?  Has Obama has endangered the country by releasing CIA secrets.  Contradicting himself, he also said he would not necessarily oppose an effort to pursue a “further accounting” and investigation into the Bush-era interrogation program that included waterboarding, sleep deprivation, forced nudity, shoving people into walls and other methods.  You want to bet we’ll see a full blown investigation of the CIA Interrogation program that reveals more secrets for the terrorists to use against us? 

Even Donald Rumsfeld on a Larry King Interview prior to 911 said, “Well, we have to recognize that it’s a dangerous and untidy world. There’s a lot of very powerful, lethal weapons that exist and ways that people can impose enormous damage. And we have to be vigilant. We have to be willing to invest to see that we have the kinds of capabilities that we can deter and defend and, where necessary, preempt. ” http://www.september11news.com/Mysteries3.htm  He went on to mention that on the morning of 911 he predicted there would be an event that would occur in the world that would be sufficiently shocking that it would remind people, again, how important it is to have a strong, healthy Defense Department that contributes — that underpins peace and stability in our world.”

I call foul. Everyone knew something was about to happen and all that Intel slipped through the cracks allowing the most horrific attack on U.S. soil since Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.  Bush had more faulty Intel on Iraq.  We caught a few bad guys and even released some but when some piss ants cry foul about how we treat (-ed) enemy combatants, you have to wonder what information was gathered to prevent further incidents.  Why are members of Congress are doing a tight wire dance to relieve themselves of any association with interrogation procedures that not only did they know about, but worked. 

From the Herald Tribune today, http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090422/ARTICLE/904221065?Title=In-embrace-of-harsh-tactics-no-inquiry-into-their-past In 2002, “As was common with the most secret programs, the C.I.A. chose not to brief the entire committees about the interrogation methods but only the so-called Gang of Four — the top Republican and Democrat on the Senate and House committees. The rest of the committee members would be fully briefed only in 2006.” The 2002 Gang of Four briefings left a hodgepodge of contradictory recollections that, to some Congressional staff members, reveal a dysfunctional oversight system. Without full staff support, few lawmakers are equipped to make difficult legal and policy judgments about secret programs, critics say.

Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, who in 2002 was the ranking Democrat on the House committee, has said in public statements that she recalls being briefed on the methods, including waterboarding. She insists, however, that the lawmakers were told only that the C.I.A. believed the methods were legal — not that they were going to be used.  By contrast, the ranking Republican on the House committee at the time, Porter J. Goss of Florida, who later served as C.I.A. director, recalls a clear message that the methods would be used. “We were briefed, and we certainly understood what C.I.A. was doing,” Mr. Goss said in an interview. “Not only was there no objection, there was actually concern about whether the agency was doing enough.”  http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE53J6MS20090422?sp=true  He said, she said- they all knew it was going on and although morally reprehensible, legal.

Intel and congress knew attacks were imminent.  Intel and congress knew exactly what was happening at Guantanamo.  Peter J. Goss has the balls to actually admit that the information they got from torture, prevented further plans to destroy and attack America.    If acts of mental and physical ability to resist, resulted in saving American lives and halting the spread of terrorism, then so be it and Goss should be looked at as a hero not a scapegoat.

At the very least, if Obama wants to declassify details of the programs, he needs to declassify the findings as well.  By all accounts they acted legally within the interpretation of the law. I don’t have to like how they did it, but any future terrorist now knows that torture will not be a part of a deterrent to committing crimes against America. 

Transparency in America shouldn’t be good for the terrorists. 

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